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Psion nerf as of September 8th

 
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Darkpoet Slainheart
Psionicist Class Lead
Psionicist Class Lead


Joined: 10 Nov 2007
Posts: 297

PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 3:39 am    Post subject: Psion nerf as of September 8th Reply with quote

I see a lot of things that don't pass the stink test going around on the main vg forums. You guys deserve the facts at the least. I got both my test and live psion down to 343 int no buffs and recorded the numbers tonight

Current spells on live

Compression Sphere 8
4560 4798
Dementia 5
2592 2728
Mindfire 5
4980 5239
Psychic Schism 5
2115 2228
Sup. temporal fracture
2324 2447
temporal shift 7
1783 1879
Thought Pulse 8
1384 1459 3.8refresh


Spells on Test ***Subject to Change****

Compression Sphere 8
3693 3886
Dementia 5
1570 1655
Mindfire 5
4980 5239
psychic schism 5
2115 2228
Sup. temporal fracture
2642 2781
temporal shift 7
1783 1879
Thought Pulse 8
1100 1160 5.7 refresh, no ramp up


Keep in mind this comes along with a huge dps increase for sorcs and necros. Rogues and Monks did not get hit as bad as many feared. This without a doubt puts you behind Monks, Rogues, Sorcs, Necros, and Druids. I have seen mellee ranger and blood mages periodically out dps psi as well, but will attribute it to lucky string of crits. This puts us down to 6th place in the dps arms race at best 8th on a bad day. So what does that leave us with, buffs and "utility". As far as raiding you will now get to buff and sit out again. Our other "utility" is either shared by other more valuable classes or is a nice to have, not a must have. I will be emailing Talisker to ask him how we are supposed to be raid feasible, and get back to you guys.
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Aginon



Joined: 28 Oct 2007
Posts: 52

PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 2:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

But,



Why?
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Begtse



Joined: 19 Feb 2008
Posts: 4

PostPosted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 12:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

After raiding last night after the patch, I parsed pathetically behind a lesser geared Druid, and so far back in the order of dps it made me sick. Indeed, monks didn't get hit nearly as bad as everyone thought, as ours was still in the top 3 consistently.

I really believe that this is a class breaking change. I have a very hard time regressing back into a role that I already grew tired of pre-GU5...and in my view, these changes negate basically everything we were given in that update. I have a hard time understanding why, after being a sub-par class for over a year, we've been singled out more than any other class for this nerf.
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imezyou



Joined: 05 Nov 2007
Posts: 139

PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could you please also ask about any PvP-specific damage tweaks? My Compression Sphere still crits on mobs for 3-4k like it did before the patch, but it now crits on players for 6-800, as opposed to 1k-1.2k before the patch. Dementia and Psychic Schism are all similar, they seem to be hitting for much less in PvP than they should, judging from the PvE damage they do.
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Aginon



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Posts: 52

PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What imez said, pvp damage is halved
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imezyou



Joined: 05 Nov 2007
Posts: 139

PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 1:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The PvP damage issue is pretty huge, as they nerfed ALL our dots in PvP but didn't nerf a single one from any other class. Combined with the overall lowering of our DPS and the fact that player HP didn't change with the patch the way mob HP did it's pretty easy to see how bad this is for us.
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