Nerf pushed to live

[Darkpoet Slainheart]

That is all

[Ceo]

nerf or not Darkpoet I have to say one thing. Since SOE dumped the class lead project you switched from a polite and explaining, reasoning and friendly class lead to a grumpy Silius style one liner.

onTopic

They did not nerf us, they brought us in line. I think Talisker pointed out that there were a couple of factors that lead to this decrease in damage.

first, the Psi testers cheated on him. which is the most stupid thing you can probably do and while I think they should have nerfed THOSE psionicists who cheated, I do understand that they hit the whole class.

second, he states that there are maybe alternative damage rotations that we might have not tried yet and that we should be more creative regarding out dps habits. which leads to third

third, he states that the damage is under constant review and that they have a general idea of the range that certain classes should be in. Psionicists were ABOVE that range and I dont think anyone would argue about that. Talisker also states that IF the damage decrease was too much, that they will boost it back up in a range where it is more in line with their ideas and other classes.

I still cant call it a nerf, I played around a little yesterday and did not run into any major problems. the decrease was needed, how much will remain to be seen but partially I would call it a well deserved punishment for cheating. Sure we all get hit by that, but to be honest I dont feel sorry for us at the moment IF that what Talisker says is true.
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[Kensu]

I don't think Talisker was being spiteful twards the class at all. I'm sure he was upset, but I think he remained objective. He stated that he did indeed catch on to whomever was was trying to pull a fast one on him. And I now know for a fact that he is no longer taking parses only from that source, instead he is asking for parses from several guilds on live and test.

I don't know who was trying to do that but I think it was a pretty stupid thing to do. He more than likely will not trust that person's input in the future.

From what I can tell the nerf isn't too bad at all. Raids went fine, sure it was slower than before, however the APW mobs are still very killable. Even with the raidwide DPS nerf.

On a side note, anyone know what parser they use to test DPS? Talisker was saying there was a Psi who parsed 5k+ with the new changes. I'm parsing like 1.5k-2k on YAVP which I thought was decent with the gear I have. 5k doesn't seem possable unless I am missing something huge.
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[Darkpoet Slainheart]

When I have time I will check into it, but I think something is not reading correctly in xanadu parser.

[Darkpoet Slainheart]

[Murdred]

[Murdred]

My guild raided last night. I could still pull agro if I was stupid but only because I wasn't using any deagro on myself and used it on other classes instead. The sorc in the raid blew me away in dps, wasn't even close. I am going to look close at the parses today hopefully and report hard numbers but there was one situation where the sorc was out dpsing me and a druid combined.
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[Murdred]

[Darkpoet Slainheart]

Does your parse numbers look accurate? I really need to look into it more but xanadu parser says I am parsing 2.9k and I know that is impossible. minimum damage possible is 3245dps with my casting order if I Never critted and always hit for the spells minimum.

[Begtse]

Ceo:

How could you possibly justify all of us being relegated to this degree as a result of one person?

I have no problem calling it a nerf btw. Granted, there are still possibilities toward uncovering this magic 5k+ dps, but I have a hard time believing it to be something we can do consistently. Also, no one seems to talk about the fact that Transcendence becomes an afterthought at this point, with all of us cramming into phrenic rage to get maximum results.

[Ceo]

where did I state that I justify it?

they ask for parses
the only ones they get are fake ones and those are faked so bad that they notice
so they assume the opposite and react accordingly

sounds pretty logic to me

I keep reading on the forums here and the official ones that the latest live tests put the psi somewhere behind monks and sorceres ahead of the rest, there are some who parse behind warriors. Sorry but the ones behind the tanks were sleeping and the other ones sound pretty fine I would say.
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[Ceo]

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